25 May 2007

Slip Of The Tongue from Hamas?


I wonder how the apologists for Hamas, will explain away these comments:

"Abbas hates rockets just like we hate the Jews," Nizar Rayyan told reporters during a Hamas rally in the Gaza Strip.

Let’s try and guess what a few of the excuses might be?

1. “Reuters is controlled by international Zionism?”
2. “for sake of anti-imperialism, we will ignore Hamas’s virulent antisemitism”
3. “Nizar Rayyan was misquoted”
4. “Nizar Rayyan is not an offical Hamas spokesperson”
5. “it was a slip of the tongue”
6. “the cause of anti-Zionism is bigger than Hamas’s racist hatred of Jews, so we won’t dwell on it”
etc

Hmm, still Nizar Rayyan has some history, as the Guardian points out:

“Nizar Rayyan, a Hamas leader in Gaza, brushed aside any room for ambiguity. He told Reuters: "We will never recognise Israel. There is nothing called Israel, neither in reality nor in the imagination."

Peace is clearly foremost on his mind, as detailed here:

“According to Nizar Rayyan, a Hamas leader from Gaza's Jabalya refugee camp, the terrorist group has been manufacturing hand grenades and RPG's for several years. In July 2006, a Hamas video entitled "Hosted by the Rifle," showed assembly lines for anti-tank rockets, bombs and grenades.”

And we know where guns before butter leads:

to death, how pointless and stupid.

7 comments:

SnoopyTheGoon said...

You know, MB, this total absence of ambiguity could be refreshing after years of Yasser's porridge.

Ach, but don't let me start on this subject ;-)

TheIrie said...

Hi Modernity - thought I'd weigh in here.

We all know that certain elements in Palestine "hate the Jews". It is not news to anyone. The question is, why. Accepting that the issues here are not straightforward - that Hamas is responsible for massive crimes, murder and so on, can we none-the-less talk for one minute about another aspect of conditions in the Middle East - the treatment of Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza by the Israeli Occupation Forces? I'm saying that is one aspect of the reality for Palestinians, and not a small aspect either.

Have you seen the film The Wind that Shakes the Barley? If you have, and if you have seen conditions in Hebron for example, it is not at all hard to imagine the Palestinians in the position of the Irish, and Israel as the English. Don't you think the Irish in 1920 said nasty things about the English - including we hate them. Don't you also think Black South-African's said nasty things (even racist things) about whites who oppressed them - in very similar manner to Palestine today? The point is, of course they hate Israel, and even Jews, but you can't use that as a politically significant factor - not, that is, if you are interested in a peaceful outcome (as in Ireland, and to some degree, South Africa). To find a peaceful solution, Israel will have to work with people who, today at least, hate Jews. That may be hard to swallow, but I'm afraid it is the reality. The only other option is to wipe them out, and no one wants that.

I know you won't like what I've said, but I think you need to understand this point.

Jim Denham said...

most reasonable, left-leaning people would agree with most of your points, theirie, especially that "to find a peaceful solution, Isreal will have to work with people who...hate Jews". Undoubtably true. But that's not the point. The point is that anti-semistism is counter-productive for Palestianian and Arab people because it makes the achievement of a two-state solution less likely, by fostering unachievable hopes of destroying Israel, driving the Jews into the sea, etc, etc. And MB is absolutely right to draw attention to the willful ignorance and/or hypocrisy of much of the "left" here in the UK, who refuse to acknowledge the anti-semitism of movements like Hamas whilst, in practice, glorifying such anti-semitism (eg by encouraging the idea of destroying Israel).

Anonymous said...

Reuters is controlled by international zionism is probably the response the useful idiots for jihad will give. that is their comeback in any given situation, intellectually lazy, anti-semite conspiracy freaks!

Timothy Baldwin said...

Have you forgotten what "the" means? The statement could easily refer to a subset of Jews.

ModernityBlog said...

Timothy Baldwin,

if you wish to make excuses for Hamas's racist language go-ahead, no one stopping you

joshua said...

This is an interesting post. It is thought-provoking too. Keep writing!

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